the united states, and you take a look at the states and cities that are taxing people highly like detroit, and you see what eventually happens to them. >> pat, why don't we put a check box on the tax return, and everybody that wants to pay more can pay more? i'm all in favor of free choice. >> you've got a very good point. i really believe that people ought to say, look -- have a surtax for some of the programs our liberal friends support, and some can say, look, this is optional. you can choose to pay or not to pay, and check it off and see which ones do it. every time they've had something like that, about 1% of the folks check it off and pay extra. >> is that fair, ebony? >> i don't think that serves any real purpose, gentlemen. i think ultimately if we want our tax base to be supportive of upward mobility, and that's certainly, i think, the point there, then we need to be collective in that process. >> give me a percentage. out of every dollar that somebody makes in america, regardless of what their income is, what is the maximum somebody should have to pay pto the government? what sh